23 April 2009

fox news v fcc

a reason to watch faux news

This is fun. I'm not sure how this argument is supposed to fly that we're allowed to torture if we believe it works (or if it became necessary), but it is fun to see someone get tired of it in no uncertain terms.

2 comments:

not undecided said...

Wow...I haven't watched the video, but the whole argument strikes me as moot if you allow the word torture to have a flexible definition...yeah?

Sun Tzu said...

Uh... yeah, you may not want to watch that at work. There's some "colourful" language.

But yes, I'm not sure how we arrived at allowing things that have been considered by us at various points in our history as torture to be "not torture" when we used them. Then there's this line on one of the memos.

"In other words, the terrorists are called by their faith to resist as far as they can -- and once they have done so, they are free to tell everything they know. This is because of their belief that "Islam will ultimately dominate the world and that this victory is inevitable." The job of the interrogator is to safely help the terrorist do his duty to Allah, so he then feels liberated to speak freely."

whole thing = Orwellian process. Governments have learned too well from Orwell how to set up things. War is peace. We're fighting Iraqis to "liberate" them. And we were greeted as "liberators". Just not in the sense that most of us understood the term.